Fernando Scasserra | Kavak's AI Formula for Amplifying Humans Instead of Replacing Them

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Today I spoke with Fernando Scasserra, former CTO of Kavak and former technology leader at Mercado Libre, where he led teams of up to 350 people and implemented artificial intelligence to transform how cars are bought and sold. Fernando shares lessons on the practical application of AI in the physical world, from mechanical processes to the customer experience, as well as reflections on the future of technical work, team leadership, and how to stay relevant in an industry that is constantly changing.

1:22 - The Ironman Suit: AI to Empower Teams

Fernando compares the use of AI tools with putting on an Ironman suit at work.

  • What does it mean to “put the Ironman suit on people” at Kavak?
  • How has the productivity of the teams changed after bringing AI in?
  • What is the impact of AI on the balance between humans and automation?

12:01 - Building Technology in the Physical World

From homemade irrigation systems to voicebots in customer service, Fernando applies AI beyond the digital world.

  • What did he learn by designing technology for his house?
  • Why is it important for engineers to interact with the physical world?
  • How does he evaluate technical knowledge in interviews?

19:00 - AI in Customer Service and Internal Processes

At Kavak they implemented a voicebot that schedules appointments and answers questions over the phone, available 24/7.

  • What challenges did implementing a conversational voice agent involve?
  • How does AI affect customer service at night?
  • How do they handle the human-machine handoff when the bot fails?

24:00 - The Future of Technical Work with AI

Fernando reflects on the role of AI as a copilot in daily work, especially in technical tasks.

  • What changes does he see in the work of the mechanic, the plumber, or the doctor with AI?
  • What examples of hardware or physical devices excite him?
  • What will work look like in non-digital industries in the future?

29:00 - Daily Life with AI

AI also keeps him company outside of work, from presentations to conversations in the car.

  • What tasks does he delegate to AI today in his day to day?
  • How much has his experience as a programmer changed?
  • What tools does he recommend for using AI in everyday life?

35:00 - How to Lead AI Adoption in a Company

Fernando promotes a culture of voluntary but incentivized AI adoption inside Kavak.

  • What strategy did they use to encourage the use of AI across the company?
  • How did different profiles react to these tools?
  • What role does internal training, such as the “AI Academy”, play?

42:00 - Technology Teams in the AI Era

The speed of iteration changes, but the foundations of a good technical team remain.

  • How does AI affect the structure of technical teams?
  • What is the risk of moving too fast with new tools?
  • What remains essential beyond AI?

47:00 - Internal Startups and Team Autonomy

Kavak organizes its teams as mini startups with autonomy and accountability.

  • How does the mini startup model work inside Kavak?
  • What challenges did they face when they implemented it?
  • What did they learn about decentralization and speed?

50:00 - Technical Careers and the Future for Juniors

Fernando advises choosing what you are passionate about and staying adaptable.

  • What would he say to someone who is choosing a technical career today?
  • Does it make sense to choose based on “job prospects”?
  • What room is there for junior profiles in this new world?

55:00 - Quick Questions for CTOs

Fernando answers key questions about technical leadership.

  • Should a CTO know how to code?
  • What are we still underestimating about AI?
  • How do you stay up to date without losing focus?

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