3 Founders Debate: The Reality of Building an AI Startup | Dapta AI, Desteia, Darwin AI

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Today I spoke with three founders who are building artificial intelligence startups from LatAm and the United States, each with a different focus: Nicolás Rojas (Dapta), Diego Solorzano (Desteia), and Lautaro Schiaffino (Darwin). Nicolás started programming at 13, founded Imagine Apps at 17 (surpassing $1.5M in annual sales), and today leads Dapta, an artificial intelligence platform applied to marketing for SMEs. Lautaro cofounded Sirena in 2016, the first WhatsApp CRM in the region; he now runs Darwin AI, a platform of sales and customer service agents for medium-sized and large companies. Diego is founder and CEO of Desteia, an artificial intelligence solution for optimizing supply chains and global logistics; before that he founded Carrot, a mobility company that was sold in 2017.

0:00 - Introduction and Context

Why a roundtable with three founders building artificial intelligence from different angles: marketing for SMEs, sales and support agents, and supply chain.

  • The goal of the episode and how the three approaches connect.
  • What we will cover: product, GTM, fundraising, data, team.

3:00 - Do You Need to Be Technical to Start a Company in Artificial Intelligence?

Investor biases, the value of being technical, and the role of no/low-code tools in the speed of iteration.

  • Is there a real bias among VCs in favor of technical founders, and how does it affect fundraising?
  • When can being “too technical” work against execution and product focus?
  • How far do low/no-code tools and copilots level the field for non-technical profiles?

12:10 - Business Ideas and Willingness to Pay in LatAm

Software adoption in the region, “door to door” distribution, and how artificial intelligence can skip technology stages.

  • Do companies in LatAm actually pay for technology? In which segments, and with what expectations?
  • Why can lower prior adoption be an advantage for introducing artificial intelligence “agents/employees”?
  • How do you compare ROI: the cost of software vs. productivity and labor costs?

19:00 - From the Software Budget to the “AI Employees” Budget

Changes in buying models, pricing, and margins when artificial intelligence performs measurable operational work.

  • Does comparing against FDEs help you sell… or does it distract from new insights and capabilities?
  • Pricing models (per use, per result, variable) in order to better capture the value created.
  • The elephant in the room: how do you protect and improve gross margin when artificial intelligence consumption scales?

31:00 - Do You Have to Be in Silicon Valley?

Advantages of the concentration of talent and ideas in SF, and hacks for capturing that energy without losing the local focus.

  • Relocate vs. travel for periods of time and keep the team in the region.
  • How investors perceive remote teams vs. in-person teams today.
  • Calendar, events, and networking: practical tactics for “being” in SF without living there.

39:10 - Differentiation and “Moats” in Artificial Intelligence Today

Distribution, speed of learning, and proprietary data as engines of competitive advantage.

  • Is it useful to obsess over the “moat” at the beginning, or is it better to optimize for feedback and distribution?
  • Virtuous cycles (data → better models → more customers → more data) and how to start them.
  • How the sources of differentiation evolve as the tools become commoditized.

46:30 - Product: From MVP to Agents in Production

Lessons from building artificial intelligence products that go from demos to generating daily operational value.

  • Define “narrow” use cases with enough data and clear metrics of success.
  • Quality gates: when to scale an agent to more accounts or more channels.
  • Common mistakes: over-promising, underestimating exception handling, and latency.

53:15 - Go-to-Market and Enterprise Sales

How to sell artificial intelligence to medium-sized and large companies when the buyer is learning at the same time.

  • GTM sequence: paid pilots, land & expand, and internal champions.
  • Contracts: security addenda, SLAs, DPAs, and success criteria.
  • Marketing: educational content, use cases, and demonstrations with real data.

58:40 - Data, Privacy, and Compliance

The unglamorous layer that supports any artificial intelligence solution in production environments.

  • Data sources, cleaning, and drift monitoring.
  • Privacy, retention, and secure routing of prompts and contexts.
  • Traceability: logs, human evaluation, and internal audits.

1:04:20 - Fundraising: Stages, Narrative, and Metrics

How to build a credible story in a market that changes every quarter.

  • From problem → use case → “job to be done” → evidence of value.
  • Metrics that carry weight: gross margin adjusted for artificial intelligence consumption, payback, and net expansion.
  • Relationship with investors: cadence of updates, asking for specific help, and customer references.

1:10:05 - Team and Remote Culture

Hiring for small teams of high impact, and distributed collaboration.

  • “T-shaped” profiles and extreme ownership in the early stages.
  • Product rituals: requirements and speed.
  • Culture of experimentation

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